I like the screw fixation kit from Biohorizons, and I buy my Ti mesh from Salvin or Lorenz. I like to Use Ti mesh for large ridge augmentations. I have also been succesful in gaining vertical.
During my implant fellowship program, I had a chance to work with titanium mesh one time and I like it alot. Pt had a missing tooth site #12 for many years and the buccal bone defect was severed. I did two bone graft for that site and both failed. The first time I used DFDBA particulates and membrane. With post op appointments, I can tell that I did not gain the ideal alveolar thickness as I wanted. The second time I used iliac block with Lorenz screws and DFDBA particulates with membrane. Some how the block graft did not take. I ended up removing the block graft, and corticated the site for another graft. The 3rd time, my perio faculty and I ended up deciding on the titanium mesh membrane. I went back and used DFDBA particulate bone and fixated the titanium mesh with Lorenz screws. Four months later, we got awesome result, both width and height. When the pt was ready for implant placement, I already gradutated from the program. Thus, I have NO hesitation of using the Ti mesh again but always base on case selection.
ps. I have photophraphs for the procedure but don't know how to down loan them for you to see. :(
Ace surgical sells it in two different thicknesses, as well as bioplate from impladent. I like it as thin as possible. It can be bent to conform to the shape that you want.
The first time I used it gave me some of the very best grafting results I had ever obtained. Since that time I have used it under various circumstances with success and failures.
Problems and recommendations with titanium mesh:
1. You must cut the mesh to fit the site. That leaves sharp edges which can cause exposure. The problem with the titanium mesh, is that if you leave sharp edges the mateial gets exposed.
The edges of the titanium mesh are sharp, and causes gingival irritation, which can lead to infection, exposure and failure of your graft.
Recommendation: Use orthodontic instruments to make the sharp areas curve towards bone instead of the soft tissues. Place a barrier over the mesh (my preference is collagen soaked in prp). Lastly tack the mesh occlusally and apicallty so that it will not move.
2. Exposure. My only advice is that if it does get exposed, to remove it asap and cover the grafted area with collagen or alloderm.
3. Removal of the mesh. Some times it works so well that bone grows through, not just under the mesh. Also, it can become imbedded in soft tissue.
Recommendation: Just allow more time for removal.
When placing ti mesh, always extend the flap at least one tooth mesial and distal to the graft site. Score the flap to obtain primary closure.
Give titanium mesh a try. It is versatile. Often the hardest part is the fixation step. Placing screws or tacks in every area of the mouth can be a challenge.
MacroSorb(polylactic acetate) by Macropore claims their mesh and screws to resorb 100% over one year eliminating removal procedures. Has anyone had experience with this mesh?
I have not used the Macropore mesh, but I have used Vicryl Mesh with results that I was happy with. I too would be interested in hearing people's experience with the resorbable screws.
I have not used Ti mesh and the primary reason is concerns over soft tissue morbidity with this material. What is everyone's (who has used it) experience with removal? If the biotype is thin or moderate, how destructive is it to dissect the CT out/off the mesh at uncovering??
I have seen some great results with Titanium mesh, but I have also seen some catastrophic failures. The problem with Ti Mesh is sharpness. Usually, somewhere on the mesh, there will be sharp spots after trimming, bending, tacking, etc. When I used to do Ti Mesh, I would cover with a membrane in an effort to "cover" the sharp spots.
My bottom line in GBR is predictable results with as few complications as possible. Dealing with one failure can erase the satisfaction of ten successful cases. I like to minimize my failures, so I don't do Ti mesh anymore. Like I said, I got many good results from it, but the few failures I had caused me so much grief that I don't do it anymore. Over time, experience has shown me other techniques that produce similar, if not better, results with more predictability and less risk.
I went to a local study club meeting and the oral surgery that was presenting showed some real nice cases of titanium mesh combined with FDBA and infuse bmp. He was getting real nice ridge augmentation.
He is using bioplate for the mesh and he says the key to the whole procedure is passive flap closue. In the mandible, he will disect down the the anterior border of the ramus in order to get the flap passive. He also waits 6 months prior to going back. Thought I pass it along.
I use the mesh kit from impladent. Very simple system. Key is in the surgery, you have too have passive wound closure. Thin tissue often exposes over thick tissue. If tissue is thin cover the ti-mesh with collagen dressing. Helps.
I agree with the above comments. I feel the same about thin versus thick tissue. A clinician needs to make sure there is no sharp areas and there is good closure
Ti mesh can be a nightmare. I used it very early on and had alot of problems. I be curious to know from the more seasoned surgeons on how they use it and what technique increases their success.
Dr Pratt,
Indeed Ti Mesh can be difficult when exposed due to flap tension.The key is the soft tissue and the soft tissue manipulation.Thin soft tissue will create a nightmare therfore sometimes you will need to pregraft with conn tissue or dermis to increase volume and thickness prior to your augmentation procedure.Second- flap relese and when you think it is released enough,release some more...
The mesh I like to use is osteomesh by Osteogenics and i fixate it with mini screws.
Ziv when do you decide to augment the tissue before ti-mesh? How do you sell the patient on the idea of two surgeries when you can use regenaform to accomplish the goal without t-mesh.
I quess my real question is when do you decide to use ti-mesh vs regenaform?
Thanks Barry
Barry,
You have probably made a wrong assumption.Ti Mesh is used with Regenaform as well.In vertical augmentation the Regenaform needs to be protected by a space maintaining membrane with Ti reinforcement or Ti mesh.
As for selling the treatment to the patient- it has to be clear in advance for the patient that in order to be successful he will need two surgical interventions.If the tissue is thin there is no other choice.
Dear Ziv,
I think Barry wanted to know what kind of defects need ti-mesh with regenaform vs using regenaform without ti mesh?
What defects do you feel can be restored with regenaform with a membrane versus what defects do you need to break out the mesh?
TY
Tina
What is your protocol for using regenaform with a membrane as oppose to regenaform with ti-mesh?
What are your limits with Regenaform?
How do you manage bleeding sites? I used regenaform a couple times and when I do some cortical penetration it stimulates bleeding which leads to the regenaform putty breaking apart. How do you manage to keep the putty togethor?
As for limits- one can say the sky is the limit yet to my experience horizontal aug is highly predictable using Regenaform with a membrane either with tent screws or Ti reinforced dense PTFE.
As for vertical- these are the ones I prefer using the Ti mesh with Regenaform.
As for bleeding- try to decorticate at the beginning and not just before placing the graft.The bleeding will be much less over time.
First of all - Thanks for the awesome training and experience in Implant Dentistry you provided in Belgrade, Serbia in 2009. Your hands-on course enhanced and built upon my training at the Misch Institute.
I had great difficulty screwing down the titanium mesh I pre-contoured to gain height in the posterior mandible-(site 29,30,31). The screw threads engaged the mesh and started lifting the mesh away from the ridge disturbing the graft contained within. The tacks weren't engaging.It was frustrating and took the longest (22 minutes to be exact) to get what I wanted.After a while the graft material was loosing shape. (The mesh was 0.1mm titanium micro mesh). Little thought about things like this, on which nothing is written about, frustrates new surgeons like me in the middle of surgery.
Could you please comment or instruct me on this frustrating subject. Are there curved tacking instruments with built in trigger so one doesn't have to use the mallet? There is no substitute for experience !!!.
Thanks everyone. I love reading the comments section. Source of great insight!. Next best thing to real experience.
Dear Varghese
Thanks again for the compliments.As you know I love teaching and getting these feedbacks gives me more energy to carry on.
Regarding your question on stabilization of the mesh let me give you two tips:
1)make a small hole in the mesh before placing it and the graft so you will not suffer and sweat...of course undersize the hole to fit with your fixating screw.
2)If you decide to use tacks- I prefer the autotec from Biohorizon yet sometimes in lower mandible and dense bone you will have difficulty in tacking.
Keep on your good work and looking forward to see you again in our future courses.Dates can be found in www.handsoncourse.com
Steve- I usually use the Mesh by Osteogenics which has snall pores .In that type of a mesh you can tack through yet you can't screw without making a hole initially.
Large meshes such as the one from Ace you can screw without any preparation.
Comments
See the new J Perio.
See the new J Perio. Good article on Ti Mesh
Ti mesh
I like the screw fixation kit from Biohorizons, and I buy my Ti mesh from Salvin or Lorenz. I like to Use Ti mesh for large ridge augmentations. I have also been succesful in gaining vertical.
Sharing my Titanium mesh experience
During my implant fellowship program, I had a chance to work with titanium mesh one time and I like it alot. Pt had a missing tooth site #12 for many years and the buccal bone defect was severed. I did two bone graft for that site and both failed. The first time I used DFDBA particulates and membrane. With post op appointments, I can tell that I did not gain the ideal alveolar thickness as I wanted. The second time I used iliac block with Lorenz screws and DFDBA particulates with membrane. Some how the block graft did not take. I ended up removing the block graft, and corticated the site for another graft. The 3rd time, my perio faculty and I ended up deciding on the titanium mesh membrane. I went back and used DFDBA particulate bone and fixated the titanium mesh with Lorenz screws. Four months later, we got awesome result, both width and height. When the pt was ready for implant placement, I already gradutated from the program. Thus, I have NO hesitation of using the Ti mesh again but always base on case selection.
ps. I have photophraphs for the procedure but don't know how to down loan them for you to see. :(
Titanium mesh- What Mesh system do you use?
Great story.
I would love to see the pictures.
What mesh system do you use?
Titanium Mesh: My experience and recommendations
I have used titanium mesh several times.
Ace surgical sells it in two different thicknesses, as well as bioplate from impladent. I like it as thin as possible. It can be bent to conform to the shape that you want.
The first time I used it gave me some of the very best grafting results I had ever obtained. Since that time I have used it under various circumstances with success and failures.
Problems and recommendations with titanium mesh:
1. You must cut the mesh to fit the site. That leaves sharp edges which can cause exposure. The problem with the titanium mesh, is that if you leave sharp edges the mateial gets exposed.
The edges of the titanium mesh are sharp, and causes gingival irritation, which can lead to infection, exposure and failure of your graft.
Recommendation: Use orthodontic instruments to make the sharp areas curve towards bone instead of the soft tissues. Place a barrier over the mesh (my preference is collagen soaked in prp). Lastly tack the mesh occlusally and apicallty so that it will not move.
2. Exposure. My only advice is that if it does get exposed, to remove it asap and cover the grafted area with collagen or alloderm.
3. Removal of the mesh. Some times it works so well that bone grows through, not just under the mesh. Also, it can become imbedded in soft tissue.
Recommendation: Just allow more time for removal.
When placing ti mesh, always extend the flap at least one tooth mesial and distal to the graft site. Score the flap to obtain primary closure.
Give titanium mesh a try. It is versatile. Often the hardest part is the fixation step. Placing screws or tacks in every area of the mouth can be a challenge.
Hope that helps you all.
Brooke
Resorbable Mesh
MacroSorb(polylactic acetate) by Macropore claims their mesh and screws to resorb 100% over one year eliminating removal procedures. Has anyone had experience with this mesh?
I have used Vicryl mesh with good results
I have not used the Macropore mesh, but I have used Vicryl Mesh with results that I was happy with. I too would be interested in hearing people's experience with the resorbable screws.
Soft tissue management with Titanium Mesh
I have not used Ti mesh and the primary reason is concerns over soft tissue morbidity with this material. What is everyone's (who has used it) experience with removal? If the biotype is thin or moderate, how destructive is it to dissect the CT out/off the mesh at uncovering??
I have seen big failures with Ti Mesh
I have seen some great results with Titanium mesh, but I have also seen some catastrophic failures. The problem with Ti Mesh is sharpness. Usually, somewhere on the mesh, there will be sharp spots after trimming, bending, tacking, etc. When I used to do Ti Mesh, I would cover with a membrane in an effort to "cover" the sharp spots.
My bottom line in GBR is predictable results with as few complications as possible. Dealing with one failure can erase the satisfaction of ten successful cases. I like to minimize my failures, so I don't do Ti mesh anymore. Like I said, I got many good results from it, but the few failures I had caused me so much grief that I don't do it anymore. Over time, experience has shown me other techniques that produce similar, if not better, results with more predictability and less risk.
Just my 2 cents.
Titanium Mesh techniques: Local lecture I just went to
I went to a local study club meeting and the oral surgery that was presenting showed some real nice cases of titanium mesh combined with FDBA and infuse bmp. He was getting real nice ridge augmentation.
He is using bioplate for the mesh and he says the key to the whole procedure is passive flap closue. In the mandible, he will disect down the the anterior border of the ramus in order to get the flap passive. He also waits 6 months prior to going back. Thought I pass it along.
Ti-Mesh- I have had problems with this
I myself have had problems with ti-mesh. Difficult to work with. Always exposes. What results have others had and any tips to make life easier?
Ti Mesh Kit from impladent works well
I use the mesh kit from impladent. Very simple system. Key is in the surgery, you have too have passive wound closure. Thin tissue often exposes over thick tissue. If tissue is thin cover the ti-mesh with collagen dressing. Helps.
Ti Mesh works well but need to have a great technique
I agree with the above comments. I feel the same about thin versus thick tissue. A clinician needs to make sure there is no sharp areas and there is good closure
Ti Mesh --- Would like to hear from more seasoned surgeons
Ti mesh can be a nightmare. I used it very early on and had alot of problems. I be curious to know from the more seasoned surgeons on how they use it and what technique increases their success.
Ti Mesh
Dr Pratt,
Indeed Ti Mesh can be difficult when exposed due to flap tension.The key is the soft tissue and the soft tissue manipulation.Thin soft tissue will create a nightmare therfore sometimes you will need to pregraft with conn tissue or dermis to increase volume and thickness prior to your augmentation procedure.Second- flap relese and when you think it is released enough,release some more...
The mesh I like to use is osteomesh by Osteogenics and i fixate it with mini screws.
These forums are great to learn as an early implantologist
As an early implantologist I learn alot from others on these boards.
Ziv when do you decide to use ti-mesh vs regenaform.
Ziv when do you decide to augment the tissue before ti-mesh? How do you sell the patient on the idea of two surgeries when you can use regenaform to accomplish the goal without t-mesh.
I quess my real question is when do you decide to use ti-mesh vs regenaform?
Thanks Barry
Ti Mesh Vs Regenaform
Barry,
You have probably made a wrong assumption.Ti Mesh is used with Regenaform as well.In vertical augmentation the Regenaform needs to be protected by a space maintaining membrane with Ti reinforcement or Ti mesh.
As for selling the treatment to the patient- it has to be clear in advance for the patient that in order to be successful he will need two surgical interventions.If the tissue is thin there is no other choice.
Ti Mesh Vs Regenaform: Question for Ziv
Dear Ziv,
I think Barry wanted to know what kind of defects need ti-mesh with regenaform vs using regenaform without ti mesh?
What defects do you feel can be restored with regenaform with a membrane versus what defects do you need to break out the mesh?
TY
Tina
Ziv when do you choose regenaform alone vs ti-mesh
What is your protocol for using regenaform with a membrane as oppose to regenaform with ti-mesh?
What are your limits with Regenaform?
How do you manage bleeding sites? I used regenaform a couple times and when I do some cortical penetration it stimulates bleeding which leads to the regenaform putty breaking apart. How do you manage to keep the putty togethor?
Regenaform Answers
As for limits- one can say the sky is the limit yet to my experience horizontal aug is highly predictable using Regenaform with a membrane either with tent screws or Ti reinforced dense PTFE.
As for vertical- these are the ones I prefer using the Ti mesh with Regenaform.
As for bleeding- try to decorticate at the beginning and not just before placing the graft.The bleeding will be much less over time.
Regenaform question for Ziv
Ziv, Will you only break out the Ti-mesh for a vertical defect?
Thx
Brooke
Titanium Mesh techniques, advantages and disadvantages
Anyone using Ti-mesh with infuse?
Dr.Mazor - Help!! - Titanium Mesh screw down and tacking.
First of all - Thanks for the awesome training and experience in Implant Dentistry you provided in Belgrade, Serbia in 2009. Your hands-on course enhanced and built upon my training at the Misch Institute.
I had great difficulty screwing down the titanium mesh I pre-contoured to gain height in the posterior mandible-(site 29,30,31). The screw threads engaged the mesh and started lifting the mesh away from the ridge disturbing the graft contained within. The tacks weren't engaging.It was frustrating and took the longest (22 minutes to be exact) to get what I wanted.After a while the graft material was loosing shape. (The mesh was 0.1mm titanium micro mesh). Little thought about things like this, on which nothing is written about, frustrates new surgeons like me in the middle of surgery.
Could you please comment or instruct me on this frustrating subject. Are there curved tacking instruments with built in trigger so one doesn't have to use the mallet? There is no substitute for experience !!!.
Thanks everyone. I love reading the comments section. Source of great insight!. Next best thing to real experience.
Varghese.
Titanium Mesh Stabilization- Answer to Varghese
Dear Varghese
Thanks again for the compliments.As you know I love teaching and getting these feedbacks gives me more energy to carry on.
Regarding your question on stabilization of the mesh let me give you two tips:
1)make a small hole in the mesh before placing it and the graft so you will not suffer and sweat...of course undersize the hole to fit with your fixating screw.
2)If you decide to use tacks- I prefer the autotec from Biohorizon yet sometimes in lower mandible and dense bone you will have difficulty in tacking.
Keep on your good work and looking forward to see you again in our future courses.Dates can be found in www.handsoncourse.com
Titanium Mesh Stabilization: Confused
Ziv the mesh already has holes in it so I am not sure what you mean by place a small hole in the mesh?
I would also not use tacks with the mesh. I myself use KLS screws to fixate the mesh.
Make sure there is no sharp edges in the mesh so it doesnt auto expose.
Ti Mesh for Steve
Steve- I usually use the Mesh by Osteogenics which has snall pores .In that type of a mesh you can tack through yet you can't screw without making a hole initially.
Large meshes such as the one from Ace you can screw without any preparation.
Question for Ziv: Difference in Mesh
Ziv is there any reason why you choose Osteogenics mesh over a large pore mesh?
Does the small pores make a difference?
Easier handling?
Thanks
Steve
Titanium Mesh techniques, advantages and disadvantages.
What Mesh system are people using and Why?
Ti Mesh Kit: Impladent or Synthes
I use either ti mesh from impladent or sythes. The kits are easy to use and has all the drill bits you need.
KLS Martin Ti Mesh and Bone graft kit
KLS has a nice jaw recon kit with screws. It does have a hefty cost but well worth it.
What are others using for ti Mesh?